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  • Rating Combloc 7.62x54R surplus.....

    There is a lot of it still around. I'm going to offer my analysis of it, by source. Feel free to add, or to disagree. I've not shot all of it, by a stretch, because there are a whole lot of producers out there.

    #1. Clearly, the Russian stuff. I've not fired anything that produces a "Pumpkin Ball" fireball out of an M44 the way that stuff does. And it's reasonably accurate on top of everything else.

    #2. The grey cased East German. It's perhaps even slightly more accurate than the Russian. A bit slower, though, by my Chrono work with it. It's still top-of-the-line ammo.

    #3. Polish, if you can find any. I had some once. I may still have some, somewhere, but I wish I'd gotten more. Purt' Near as good as the EG.

    #4. Romanian. There's still a lot of that going around, and it's not all that bad. To my experience, it's not as accurate or repeatable as the EG or Russian, but it still goes "BANG" pretty well, and will land in the area you are aiming it at. It works.

    #5. Bulgarian. This stuff can go from pretty good to pretty terrible, from can to can. Their QC and their storage both are suspect. It generally shoots, but holds about two minutes of Berm on a bad day, from a bad can. Slightly iffy.

    #6. Albanian. Outch. Run and hide your money if anyone is planning to sell you any of this stuff. Most of it will feed into my M44's, but only "Most", unless you like using a chunk of 2x4 on your bolt. Getting it back out is interesting. Don't buy this stuff if you can avoid it, because it's not worth it, unless you like having to sit on the back porch and cycle it all through an M44 to see if it will feed or not, so you don't have so many issues at the range. Bad.

    #7. I've run onto some Egyptian and Paki 54R. I got lucky, and never bought more than a hundred rounds or so of either. Half of it went off, and that's out of the half that would actually feed into the rifles. Just don't.

    Alle Kunst ist umsunst Wenn ein Engel auf das Zundloch brunzet (All skill is in vain if an angel pisses down the touch-hole of your musket.) Old German Folk Wisdom.

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    Re: Rating Combloc 7.62x54R surplus.....

    I'd put the Czech in around 3/4, as long as you don't have issues with the lacquer and trying to eject rounds (varies by chamber).

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      Re: Rating Combloc 7.62x54R surplus.....

      You mean Mosins don't come with a 2x4 anymore?
      Youth And Brawn Are No Match For Age And Treachery.
      I'm Old And May Not Fight. I'll Shoot Instead.

      USMC 1959/1963

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        Re: Rating Combloc 7.62x54R surplus.....

        No Hugarian love?

        I bought a case of light ball at Knob Creek and would buy more if I could find it. It shot well for me.

        I don't remember if it was Magyar state arsenal manufacture, but that's what I think it was.

        Agreed, ANYTHING made in Albania is CRAP! Worthless junk made in a land that time forgot. And rightly so.

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          Re: Rating Combloc 7.62x54R surplus.....

          I have had good accuracy with Czech silver tip. Similar performance with the Polish. The Albanian I have used had varying rim thickness and thus difficult chambering issues in some rifles. In the rifles that accepted it, Albanian has proved to be pretty accurate. The Russian yellow tipped heavy ball ammo had a significant kick to it and shot well in my Finnish M39's.

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            Re: Rating Combloc 7.62x54R surplus.....

            Originally posted by GD View Post
            I have had good accuracy with Czech silver tip. Similar performance with the Polish. The Albanian I have used had varying rim thickness and thus difficult chambering issues in some rifles. In the rifles that accepted it, Albanian has proved to be pretty accurate. The Russian yellow tipped heavy ball ammo had a significant kick to it and shot well in my Finnish M39's.
            Anything that will chamber in my M39's or other Finns shoots "well", as a rule. Except the Albanian, which tends to wander a bit, even from fine rifles.....

            Be it noted, if you have a semi-auto 54R rifle. My Romak-3 will not feed much of anything except the Russian, EG, or Polish, consistently, The Romanian is a bit iffy most days....(Go figure. Their rifle, their ammo, and we have an issue? But once every couple of mags, one will FTE on me.)

            Anything below that on the list? It won't work twice in a row.

            For The Record: I've never shot any Czech or Hungarian. If I run onto any, I will try it. I've got some Yugo Heavy Ball, which works very nicely in the short Mosins. I've never tried it on anything else, because I'm saving it for the ones I know it works well in. Also For The Record, I've had more FTF's with the Yugo Heavy Ball than I would prefer. 2%, minimum, and probably closer to 4% if I was counting strictly well.



            There is a difference between Range Ammo and what I'm going to take out to be getting offensive toward the Powers-that-Be with, actually.

            8 or 9 out of 10 is not good enough at that point.

            Alle Kunst ist umsunst Wenn ein Engel auf das Zundloch brunzet (All skill is in vain if an angel pisses down the touch-hole of your musket.) Old German Folk Wisdom.

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              Re: Rating Combloc 7.62x54R surplus.....

              Ah yeah Campybob, I forgot about the Hungarian (have 20-30 different kinds of x54R on my shelf, ti's hard to keept rack of it all. ). I'd rate it about the same as the Czech, with the added bonus that even though it's lacquered, it seems less sticky than the Czech. For whatever reason, the gray is better than the green.

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