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  • Well this is just stupid!!

    The whole idea of a black powder rifle is its not a cartridge firearm. That is what keeps them legal for felons to use them in some states.

    https://gunsmagazine.com/discover/tr...-muzzleloader/


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    I have to ask the obvious though: are the cases reloadable?

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    • #3
      It sure doesn't make any sense to me. The closest analogy I can think of would be if someone wanted to have a Model A Ford, but thinks it ought to come with a back-up camera and surround sound.

      It must be a Fudd thing, where they want to be able to hunt the black powder season without having to go to all the trouble of dealing with a black powder rifle. I'd think that loading a .45-70 with the original load of 70 grains of black powder would be the logical equivalent, but they are getting around some laws somewhere by going to that, I suspect.
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      • #4
        I see it falling within a title 1 firearm description and not being considered a black powder rifle in many states. If the shells are reloadable then it really isn't a black powder rifle.

        What's the difference between this and a single shot 20ga shotgun with a rifled barrel shooting a lead slug? The brass on the shell?


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        • #5
          The only thing I can see is that the cap insn't pressed in to the base. *Maybe* could be a loophole. Maybe.

          RR
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          • #6
            So from what I am reading, the powder charge is in a polymer case and you load the 'bullet' in the traditional manor, and have to add your own 209 primer. I still don't see the attraction, if I want to shoot black powder, I am either going to follow Jefferson's idea with the .45-70 or possibly .44-40 or use a more traditional rifle such as a Kentucky long rifle or the like. Other wise I will stick to a regular rifle and be done with it.
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            • #7
              Late 19th. Early 20th century target shooters would load powder into cartridges and seat the bullet from the muzzle. It was supposed to be more accurate.

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