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  • Any over the counter antibiotics?

    Besides Coloidial Silver? If needed can effective antibiotics be obtained by and individual without a perscription?
    Something similar to the Erithromicine (Spelling??)

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    Ask and ye shall receive, including Erythromycin.
    http://www.lambriarvet.com/catalog/antibiotics1.htm

    Long answer, short version: yes they are safe and human compatible. I have used them myself. Compounded from bulk generics by a pharmacist under properly aseptic technique.

    RR

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    • #3
      Thanks for the info RR.Looks like an interesting site.Good question Stokes,

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      • #4
        Thanks Bro.. That is what I was looking for...

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        • #5
          Sent for one of there catalogs. So I can assume that most the stuff they sell we can take?

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          • #6
            The items listed on that page are human compatible. That said there are other aquarium antibiotics that are not.

            Check this site out for examples of fish antis that are not human safe:
            http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...=6&pCatId=4626

            Some of those use copper salts, which while they work well for addressing surface problems for fish cab cause problems in humans. You have to stick with straight antibiotics. Others use nitrates as the active ingredient, another potential problem for us 2-legged critters.

            It has been a while since I last checked but I believe the Maracyn or Maracyn II (maybe both?) fall into the Do Not Use catagory. I first checked with Mardel Labs - the manufacturer of that particular line - back in "97. The straight antibiotics that you will recognize such as Ampicillin, Tetracycline, etc, are good. No adverse additives. They are not cheap though, but they can be found in pet shops all over the country. They may not be produced under conditions as aseptic as the AquaFish brand though. That I was not able to determine.

            As with any medication the responsibility falls on the user to make sure they are safe and indicated for the intended use. You can't fight a gram negative infection using an anti that affects primarily gram positive bugs.

            If you choose to stock antibiotics you also need to have decent drug references and diagnosis guides on hand as well. This will better enable you to determine what is indicated for what you seem to be dealing with. You also need to know the potential side effects, contraindications, and what they should not be used in conjunction with as far as other medications or even food products.

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            • #7
              <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Reasonable Rascal:
              Ask and ye shall receive, including Erythromycin.
              http://www.lambriarvet.com/catalog/antibiotics1.htm

              Long answer, short version: yes they are safe and human compatible. I have used them myself. Compounded from bulk generics by a pharmacist under properly aseptic technique.

              RR

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              What is the shelf-life for these?

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              We'd better get back because it'll be dark soon, and they mostly come at night. Mostly.

              [This message has been edited by Ripley (edited 22 April 2002).]

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              • #8
                Ahhh, I am glad you asked. According to the best info we can find several years beyond the printed expiry date. In virtually no case less than one year, and sometimes they remain fully potent for another 5. You can extend the effective shelf life of any dry med by freezing them, the colder the better.

                The USAF intiated a study back in the "80's on shelf lives because they were facing millions of $$$ in replacement costs for stockpiled, unused meds. Their studies showed that shelf lives overall for most meds - finding the actual list has proven elusive, just a few listed here and there as examples - to be much longer than previously thought. They'd actually get FDA approval for added dating. In the case of the Atropine injectors used for nerve agents they finally gave up 15 years after the initial manufacture date and just replaced them. They were still testing good.

                Even Tetracycline, long presumed to become toxic after expiration as based upon a report from the 1960's much debated since, proved to be useful without added danger several years later. Results did vary somewhat between batches for reasons unknown. But the conclusion was that even when they had been stored in uncooled warehouses in the Middle East (post Desert Storm) for 2 years they remained good and eligible for re-dating.

                RR

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