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Apparently an AK without its stock is still of legal length.
Is it legal to go stockless?
Is it legal to go stockless?
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as long as its 26in without the butt stock and the barrels is 16in your fine. -
I measured my SAR and w/o the stock it is 26.some odd inches in overall length. I might need to remeasure just to make sure... But I was checking to make sure that come 9/14 I could put an underfolder on it w/o having to permanently attach a muzzel device.Originally posted by madhater1:
as long as its 26in without the butt stock and the barrels is 16in your fine.Comment
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As long as the rear tang counts, My WASR is legal.Comment
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Didn't FAC sell a wooden "plug"...I think it was called a "Schmeiser style" thing. Must have been East German???
Take the stock off and put the plug in....it filled the hole in the back and gave you legal overall length.And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgement was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands: and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Rev. Chap.20 Vs.4)Comment
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I'm having a moderator moment here,,, FAC?Originally posted by Led:
Didn't FAC sell a wooden "plug"...I think it was called a "Schmeiser style" thing. Must have been East German???
Take the stock off and put the plug in....it filled the hole in the back and gave you legal overall length.Comment
Federal Arms Corp. www.gunsnstuff.net
I saw their ad a few weeks ago and they still had it for sale.Comment
Thank you!Originally posted by FreightTrain:
Federal Arms Corp. www.gunsnstuff.net
I saw their ad a few weeks ago and they still had it for sale.Comment
I'm having a moderator moment here,,, FAC? </font>[/QUOTE]Prometheus,Originally posted by Prometheus:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Led:
Didn't FAC sell a wooden "plug"...I think it was called a "Schmeiser style" thing. Must have been East German???
Take the stock off and put the plug in....it filled the hole in the back and gave you legal overall length.
See here http://www.gunsnstuff.net/FAC/037.aspComment
Though there might be some special voodoo legislation that was specific to AKs.
Thanks folks.Comment
7) The term ''rifle'' means a weapon designed or redesigned,
made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and
designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the
explosive in a fixed metallic cartridge to fire only a single
projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the
trigger.
(8) The term ''short-barreled rifle'' means a rifle having one or
more barrels less than sixteen inches in length and any weapon made
from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if
such weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than
twenty-six inches.
Title 18 USC, Section 921(8)
These are the Federal requirements.Comment
With no stock, and a pistol grip it might not be considered a rifle anymore.Originally posted by Shomer:
7) The term ''rifle'' means a weapon designed or redesigned,
made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and
designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the
explosive in a fixed metallic cartridge to fire only a single
projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the
trigger.
(8) The term ''short-barreled rifle'' means a rifle having one or
more barrels less than sixteen inches in length and any weapon made
from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if
such weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than
twenty-six inches.
Title 18 USC, Section 921(8)
These are the Federal requirements.Comment
With no stock, and a pistol grip it might not be considered a rifle anymore. </font>[/QUOTE]The above words lead me to believe that it would still be considered a rifle. Though you raise an interesting point and I could be wrong.Originally posted by Isaac:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Shomer:
...and any weapon made
from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise)...
Title 18 USC, Section 921(8)
These are the Federal requirements.
I believe that the BATF would assume it to be a rifle unless it was specifically designed to be fired by one hand.
29) The term ''handgun'' means -
(A) a firearm which has a short stock and is designed to be
held and fired by the use of a single hand...
Title 18 USC, Section 921(29A)
[ May 21, 2004, 00:16: Message edited by: Shomer ]Comment
...and intended to be fired from the shoulder.
i've never seen this issue pressed in a court of law...it might be interesting.Comment
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