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Old May 3rd, 2017, 06:00 PM
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Icon18 Intrac AK74( Romanian,1997)???

Paintball Magnet got me thinking. And I may have a doable deal on Armslist for one of these,with 5 magazines,200 rounds and a few other accessories for $650-$700... Who here remembers these,are they comparable to Arsenal,SAR 2's or similar quality rifles? I vaguely remember mention of these but have no hand's on experience with these versions.
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Old May 3rd, 2017, 08:07 PM
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IIRC, I owned an Intrac import and it was a ROMAK2. It had a very good black oxide finish, thick and durable as any I've owned.

Many of the ROMAK versions (And earlier WUM and CUR models) had slant-cut receivers. Some were square cut and obviously worth more money.

A lot of the ban models were imported (and sold) with the laminated 'Drag' style stock...a variation on the thumbhole theme. Before the ban went away and 922R compliant rifles became the norm, the Kalashnikov imports were returned to military configuration.

The early 922R conversions had some really crappy trigger groups installed and trigger slap, gritty triggers and the like was also a kind of new normal. You may need a replacement and you may not.

Canted front sights and crooked gas blocks did not originate with the SAR series, so check those out for alignment. Correcting them is possible, but a pain in the ass to do.

The Intrac Drag originals were around $275-$350 back in the day. Today? I don't think the rifle would be worth more than $500 unless unfired and with box / papers. Your deal with ammunition and magazines would push that to the $600-$650 range so possibly not an unreasonable asking price.

While the WUM / CUR / ROMAK / SAR series were never on the quality level of any Arsenal or Saiga product, the best of them were competent shooters. I would buy any of them, but only after a careful inspection to verify all construction details.
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Old May 3rd, 2017, 11:38 PM
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Thanks. I haven't been able to meet,greet and hand inspect yet(probably not until next week)but the photos appear to be a square rear receiver trunnion area. I will have to get a hands on.
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Old May 4th, 2017, 05:06 AM
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Considering they usually were decent rifles and the current price of surplus magazines, this doesn't sound like a horrible deal. I'd sure like to see it in my hands before buying or at least have a money back three day inspection window. I have more doubts buying ANY AK without visual inspection, this including headspace, than any other make of firearm. I've seen too many outright junkers being passed to buyers. A buddy got three AK's, one at a time, from a well known Georgia builder, he was lucky that they took all back and refunded his money, all had serious issues. I wish I'd got into a '74 years ago, think it'd be neat owning one. If you decide to buy it and it does have crappy trigger parts, I have several sets of original parts, I'll send you a set.
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Old May 4th, 2017, 09:39 AM
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Thanks PBM. I am working in Massachusetts a few days. When I get some breathing space,I will see if it is still available.
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Old May 4th, 2017, 09:52 AM
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Speaking of 922R, has anyone actually be charged/convicted of "violating" the rules? Buying a used one that has been altered I presume might put you in a situation where you could be charged.
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Old May 4th, 2017, 10:57 AM
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Speaking of 922R, has anyone actually be charged/convicted of "violating" the rules? Buying a used one that has been altered I presume might put you in a situation where you could be charged.
I have never heard of a conviction, You would think if it had been used in a conviction it would be all over the liberal news networks. Here is a 2009 letter from BATF that may help answer your question. http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261731
Of course it may have been superseded since then.
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Speaking of 922R, has anyone actually be charged/convicted of "violating" the rules? Buying a used one that has been altered I presume might put you in a situation where you could be charged.
I've been to several major gun shows, shows that had ATFe agents roaming the aisles, seen numerous firearms that were obviously non 922 compliant yet not one thing was said or done. I'd not volunteer to be the test case but I have yet to hear of even one person busted for non-compliance. They may be waiting to start but so far..... Its got so when it comes to having a reliable weapon vs crap compliance parts, most I know ignore the rules. Try finding FAL HTS sets that won't eventually begin doubling, I've yet to see any identifiable US made sets that held up to hard use. For instance, a certain well known FAL manufacturer was once upon a time selling parts that looked IDENTICAL to Austrian Steyr fire control parts, they included a printed sheet stating the parts were US made. I never believed it.
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The early guns, specifically the CUR and WUM guns are probably the best bet on these. :Later guns I have seen are a mess. The finish on all of then is poor but durable. I prefer guns that are made in the Cugir plant as they are the producer of the military guns.. I have a CUR I and a CUR 2. They are both great guns. Got burned once on a later gun. Won't do that again. Had a cut receiver end. Bad on me for not paying attention.


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I've been to several major gun shows shows that had ATFe agents roaming the aisles, seen numerous firearms that were obviously non 922 compliant yet not one thing was said or done. I'd not volunteer to be the test case but I have yet to hear of even one person busted for non-compliance. They may be waiting to start but so far..... Its got so when it comes to having a reliable weapon vs crap compliance parts, most I know ignore the rules. Try finding FAL HTS sets that won't eventually begin doubling, I've yet to see any identifiable US made sets that held up to hard use. For instance, a certain well known FAL manufacturer was once upon a time selling parts that looked IDENTICAL to Austrian Steyr fire control parts, they included a printed sheet stating the parts were US made. I never believed it.
I don't know what this non 922 compliant is. I also know if I thought there were F Troop pukes there I am gonezo. Me thinks this is my 1st crack at the AK realm here. Got a couple questions.

a) Would a Century Arms AK have 922 issues?

b) If the answer is affirmative what are the ramifications down the road freedom wise?

Gonna head for Gen. Dis. now. Mornin' fellas.
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The way I understand 922r, its only applicable when it is assembled. IE: You are building it from a kit. Of course I may be wrong.
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If you can buy a correct Romak they are great guns.I had semi's and a full auto sample.I miss my entire collection of all that stuff.

Now I end up with as a old guy a 1977 Afghan Bring back AK-74, That is all legal now to have Since its here in Country.

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Old June 4th, 2017, 07:45 PM
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The guy opted for keeping the Intrac BTW.... I have reconstituted some of of my Ghetto Arms Locker,replacing some things and hanging onto a few no one important knew I had when my case was hot. Eventually,I will run across a private score when I am not running on fumes financially. In the meantime,I just do what I do.
Krink,let us know what the 74 prefers-7N6 surplus,Golden Tiger or Silver Bear.
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Of course while it was there shooting corro 76n. but a very good Soldier cleaned it so barrel is as you can say exc. plus cond. no corrosion and Piston is exc. cond. Only will run a mag or two of Tula through it. And off to the corner for rest.
It has been though a war or two.
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Well today no Saiga's Molots, or Veprs they stuck it to us again with another ban b.s. thing. Never saw that many ad's dropped off g.b. in 24 hours.

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love my Romanian CUGIR 74. Got it back in the late 90's when they first came in. Super shooter. Wish I had bought 2 of them. I have a SAR 3 in 223 that's just as good of a shooter as well. Another CUGIR rifle.......


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Old June 21st, 2017, 02:50 PM
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74 bring back is in retirement, Even tho its a "War Dog"no sense to beat it anymore. Picked up a Molot 74 from a buddy of mine in town, that will be the Zombie slayer. also snapped up a few 95 round drums... before the new russky ban makes these more money. He gave me the Buddy deal at $1100 out the door for the Para model. I have seen a few already asking $1500 today.

Which to me in 24 hours is way too much of a jump in price. and a few Price on Request and a few NOT IN STOCK now.

With old age comes the comfort of taking care of a few guns o use. And not the chaos I once knew.

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p.s. I had a buddy come over last week. and I showed him some pics and records. When he saw the few pages of over a hundred SKS models and well over 200 plus AK'S.And the Dragunovs blew his mind. I think he bowed.A fun run.
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