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Old January 31st, 2009, 20:19
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Default Why not M14's and M16's?

Why doesn't the CMP sell surplus M14's and M16's?
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Old January 31st, 2009, 21:49
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Default Re: Why not M14's and M16's?

m-14 and m-16's have "selectors" and can fire full auto.

We, the people, not allowed those without special permits.

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Old February 2nd, 2009, 15:57
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The once a machine gun always a machine rule prevents them from selling the M14s even though they can be easily converted to semi auto. They also can't sell M2 marked carbines. Even though the removal of the FA parts makes it semi and the fact that full auto parts are found on M1 carbines that went through rebuild (they are semi auto because the selector arm and other FA specific parts are not present). M2s were purpose built machine guns while a M1 evolved into machine guns over time. M16s could easily be modified or the receiver could simply be swapped out to make them semi but the liability attached to that would be huge and the CMP does not have the time or money to even consider it.
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Old February 2nd, 2009, 18:53
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About the M14. I thought I read somewhere that it was Clinton that signed them away and many were destroyed.


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Old February 3rd, 2009, 20:34
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Default Re: Why not M14's and M16's?

The DCM actually loaned and/or sold M14's...once upon a time.

Sign a petition to have the CMP sell M14's here: http://www.petitiononline.com/M14CMP03/petition.html

Some info on semi-auto government supplied M14's here:
http://www.alpharubicon.com/leo/m14typeriflesd.htm

Detailed history here:
http://miamirifle-pistol.org/userfil...n%20070603.pdf

M14 NM Issue – Shooters were introduced to the M14 NM rifle at the 1963 National Rifle Matches. M14 NM rifles were a regular issue item at the 1964 and 1965 Matches. The M14 type rifle was popular in competition shooting until the early 1990s. The M14 was used by the U. S. Marine Corps at Camp Perry as late as 1996. However, U. S. DCM shooting clubs, such as the Alabama State Service Rifle Team and the Connecticut State Rifle and Pistol Association, still inventoried M14 NM rifles until early 2007. On January 08, 2007, the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) recalled all USGI M14 rifles in the possession of state associations. The primary reason for the recall was that the small number of M14 type rifles in use for service rifle competition. The CMP recall letter cited only 4 % of the rifles used in the President’s and National Trophy Individual Matches at the 2006 National Matches were M14 type rifles. Additionally, since 1996 there had been substantial financial and staffing costs to account for missing M14 rifles loaned out to various state associations.
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Old February 4th, 2009, 21:19
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Default Re: Why not M14's and M16's?

It's not that we have to have a permit. Rather, depending on state law about possession of fully automatic weapons, if you are allowed to in your state, you pay a TAX to the federal government, for the privelege of owning one. In spite of all the feds blathering, it's legal as long as you PAY.
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Old February 8th, 2009, 23:15
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Default Re: Why not M14's and M16's?

But in this case, the M14s and M16s made prior to 1986 would not be registered on the proper form to allow for civilian transfer making the tax a moot point as they would most likely be considered post may samples and useless for all but dealers or government agencies.
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