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can you make 7.62x54r brass out of something easier to find ?

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  • can you make 7.62x54r brass out of something easier to find ?

    is it possible to make 7.62x54r brass out of some more commonly available brass ?
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    descendants" Major David French Boyd, 9th Louisiana Infantry, Confederate States army


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    may your mountains rise into and above the clouds\"
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    If there is a cartridge you can reform to make 7.62x54 it would be one not commonly available. Your best bet would be to buy Winchester or Graf brass/ammunition. You could always buy some of the surplus stuff and substitute commercial bullets but be aware that much of the surplus ammunition has corrosive primers.

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    • #3
      I bet you can't cause of the rim. But I'm not an expert. That cartridge is so old, I bet it doesn't have ancestors.
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      • #4
        Let me do some digging when I get home. I have a list somewhere of casings that can be resized and trimmed to make other caliber casings. Or maybe a link to a list online.

        However, IIRC, 54R is not on the list. As previously noted, the rim is pretty unique for a rifle cartridge.
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        • #5
          Since my last response obviously inspired no better, I looked in The Illustrated Reference of Cartridge Dimensions. Nothing. I followed this with Major Nonte's book. Not even listed. Next I tried Ken Howell's book. Success! You can make them from Finnish 7.62x53R brass. That would be the marginally different (it's one millimeter shorter on OAL)case. Some claim that it uses .308" diameter bullets versus .310". Not much better than the others. Okay. How about The Handloader's Manual Of Cartridge Conversions by John Donnelly & Bryce Towsley you ask? Ready?

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          • #6
            Continued. Use 45-70 brass. Swage the body down from .505" to .490".Turn rim from .608" to .570". Anneal. Use form die or form 40-65 then .33 Winchester then finally 7.62x54. Trim and you're ready to load. I'll wager that you'd rather buy commercial brass, huh?

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            • #7
              steve thanks for all the research and the post , i think your right commerical stuff doesnt sound so bad.
              "He who feels no pride in his ancestors is unworthy to be remembered by his
              descendants" Major David French Boyd, 9th Louisiana Infantry, Confederate States army


              \"may your trails be crooked,winding,lonesome,dangerous,leading to the most amazing view.
              may your mountains rise into and above the clouds\"
              e.a.

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