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  • #16
    Re: Best .308 battle Rifle

    I have a couple of semi AK 47s, a chicom M14/S and an original FN/FAl. If the SHTF was to occur I would forget I ever owned the first 2 listed and take my FN/FAL. It may not (???) have 1000 yd accuracy, but I'm not a 1000 yd shooter. If the target is under 500 yds it is in trouble. I also do not think that I must be able to hit a half dollar at 500 yds to be an acceptable shot. If I can hit anywhere on the flat side of a GI gas can at 300 - 500 yds you don't want me shooting at you. I sure don't have to hit my target within a designated 2 or 3" circle to put him out of the fight. ALL of my deer and antelope killed over 25 years - except one (1) of each - was killed with a single shot asnd I don't use a scope!
    Besides my FN/FAL has a run fast switch for close in massed targets.
    Sarge
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    • #17
      Re: Best .308 battle Rifle

      1. FAL
      2. FAL
      3. FAL

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      • #18
        Re: Best .308 battle Rifle

        Springfield Armory SOCOM II

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KovvQnHYJVo
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        • #19
          Re: Best .308 battle Rifle

          I like FAL's

          The one I have now is an Imbel kit on an Imbel GL receiver, with DSA furniture, and built by Azex in Mesa Az. I'd be willing to bet it's as nice as anything DSA is building, and it was a quite a bit cheaper too.

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          • #20
            Re: Best .308 battle Rifle

            Another vote for the FAL.

            I've owned a G3, M1A, AR-10 and several FALs.
            I sold the G3, the M1A, the AR10 and bought 3 more FALs.

            But it's all a matter of personal choice. Spend some time behind each one and make an informed decision based on your preferences. The worst thing you can do is buy a rifle soley based on someone else's opinion.

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            • #21
              Re: Best .308 battle Rifle

              Originally posted by Jackrabbit View Post
              Another vote for the FAL.

              I've owned a G3, M1A, AR-10 and several FALs.
              I sold the G3, the M1A, the AR10 and bought 3 more FALs.

              But it's all a matter of personal choice. Spend some time behind each one and make an informed decision based on your preferences. The worst thing you can do is buy a rifle soley based on someone else's opinion.
              I did judt the opposite.....I think the FALs are terribly over rated. My loaded M1A is just too accurate and too cool. My quick access is my AR10A4......very accurate.
              Peter 5:8
              "Be sober, be vigilant; Because your adversary the Devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking who he may devour."

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              • #22
                Re: Best .308 battle Rifle

                Iron Hand-
                Thank you for the pic of that very nice example of a Canadian FAL- probably my favorite-
                I bought a G-series 30+ years ago- shoots great-
                I removed all the original parts and changed it to a Para with 18" hammer forged barrel-
                MIght put it back to original someday but if I was to get a second one it would be a C1A1 like yours-
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                After all, if the cat had kittens in the oven, we ain't gonna call'em biscuits.

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                • #23
                  Re: Best .308 battle Rifle

                  Originally posted by OldFalGuy View Post
                  Iron Hand-
                  Thank you for the pic of that very nice example of a Canadian FAL- probably my favorite-
                  I bought a G-series 30+ years ago- shoots great-
                  I removed all the original parts and changed it to a Para with 18" hammer forged barrel-
                  MIght put it back to original someday but if I was to get a second one it would be a C1A1 like yours-

                  OFG: My FAL is actually an Israeli light-barrel built on an Entreprise Arms 'Israel Match' Type I receiver. The top cover is from a C1, and the rear sight is from a C2, a 1000 meter disc. The wood furniture is actually Australian inch hand-guards, but seem to fit even with the handguard spacer against the gas regulator. Everything else is Israeli. The barrel has a 3/67 stamp, which leads me to believe that in its former life a young IDF soldier was waving it over his head after they re-took Jerusalem after almost 2000 years.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Best .308 battle Rifle

                    Originally posted by Ironhandjohn View Post
                    OFG: My FAL is actually an Israeli light-barrel built on an Entreprise Arms 'Israel Match' Type I receiver. The top cover is from a C1, and the rear sight is from a C2, a 1000 meter disc. The wood furniture is actually Australian inch hand-guards, but seem to fit even with the handguard spacer against the gas regulator. Everything else is Israeli. The barrel has a 3/67 stamp, which leads me to believe that in its former life a young IDF soldier was waving it over his head after they re-took Jerusalem after almost 2000 years.
                    Yep, and MINE is the C1A1 the same guy built. Having shot both of them I can honestly say they are VERY good reliable rifles. Only real difference in them is IHJ got the good rear sights. LOL

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                    • #25
                      Re: Best .308 battle Rifle

                      I could not decide so I have a H&K91, M1A, and a para FAL!
                      I was bored shooting 50 bmg rifles so I bought a 20mm!

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                      • #26
                        Re: Best .308 battle Rifle Make mine an M-14.

                        I have extremely limited experience with the HK or the FN battle rifles, all of it left a negative image in my memory.

                        But I have used an M-14/M-1A extensively, both professionally and for fun. I love these rifles, I just hope I never have to carry any of them with a full combat load of ammo again.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Best .308 battle Rifle

                          I have owned the M14 (M1A), AR-10, FAL, H&K (semi G3), Cetme and PSL (in 7.62x54R but otherwise similar). I am a shooter so they all got tried out extensively.

                          I sold the FAL & H&K style rifles. I Love the M14 and the iron sights are outstanding but scope mounting is expensive and a pain. Scope mounting on the AR-10 is easy and it shoots GREAT but I don't feel it is as reliable as my M14 (pure opinion, no facts). Right now I shoot my PSL more often due to cheaper ammo prices.

                          In summary. If I was spending my money on a 308 today I would buy a AR-10 as first choice and M14 as second choice (I own both now).

                          If I just wanted a battle rifle and was not stuck on 308 I would buy a PSL (7.62x54R). The rifle is an exceptional value and surplus steel core ammo is reasonably priced. The surplus ammo is corrosive but the rifle is made to take it so cleaning is not that big a deal. If you want better accuracy my friend reloads for his and I can consistently shoot less than 2" 100yd groups (almost 1") with his ammo/rifle if I shoot slowly to avoid overheating the barrel.

                          YMMV-IMHO

                          Thx-Ace

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