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    From email:

    Your choice, slave or Free..............A lot of reading below, but do you really want to be a slave. kind of started in the late 1700’s...............

    "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him --- better take a closer look at the American Indian." - - Henry Ford

    If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?

    This man has put down on paper what many people are thinking, but are too cautious to express openly.

    I hope it never comes to what he is advocating, but I can certainly see where the possibility exists.

    God help us all if it ever does happen.

    PS. Here is what Wikipedia has to say about the author:

    Dean Garrison (born 1955) is a contemporary American author and crime fiction novelist. He was born in Michigan, grew up in the Indiana, Illinois, and Texas, and received his B.A. degree from Ferris State University in Big Rapids, Michigan. Garrison is a Crime Scene Technician in West Michigan. His research in the fields of crime scene investigation and Shooting Reconstruction are widely published in forensic journals under the name of "D.H. Garrison, Jr."

    Subject: If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?

    Posted on January 3, 2013 by Dean Garrison

    I feel a tremendous responsibility to write this article though I am a little apprehensive. Thinking about the possibility of rising up against our own government is a frightening thing for many of us. I am not Johnny Rambo and I will be the first to admit that I do not want to die. The reason I feel compelled to write this, however, is simply because I don’t think the average American is equipped with the facts. I feel that a lot of American citizens feel like they have no choice but to surrender their guns if the government comes for them. I blame traditional media sources for this mass brainwash and I carry the responsibility of all small independent blogger to tell the truth. So my focus today is to lay out your constitutional rights as an American, and let you decide what to do with those rights.

    About a month ago I let the “democracy” word slip in a discussion with a fellow blogger. I know better. Americans have been conditioned to use this term. It’s not an accurate term and it never has been a correct term to describe our form of government. The truth is that the United States of America is a constitutional republic. This is similar to a democracy because our representatives are selected by democratic elections, but ultimately our representatives are required to work within the framework of our constitution. In other words, even if 90% of Americans want something that goes against our founding principles, they have no right to call for a violation of constitutional rights.

    If you are religious you might choose to think of it this way… Say that members of your congregation decide that mass fornication is a good thing. Do they have the right to change the teachings of your God? The truth is the truth. It doesn’t matter how many people try to stray from it. Did I just compare our founders to God? In a way I did, but please note that I am not trying to insult anyone. For the purpose of the American Government our constitution and founders who wrote it are much like God is to believers. It is the law. It is indisputable.

    Our founders did not want a “democracy” for they feared a true democracy was just as dangerous as a monarchy. The founders were highly educated people who were experienced in defending themselves against tyranny. They understood that the constitution could protect the people by limiting the power of anyone to work outside of it much better than a pure system of popularity. A system of checks and balances was set up to help limit corruption of government and also the potential for an “immoral majority” developing within the American People. We have forgotten in this country that we are ultimately ruled by a constitution.

    Why is a democracy potentially just as dangerous as a monarchy? Let’s look at something that Benjamin Franklin said because it answers that question more fully and succinctly than I can.

    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. - Benjamin Franklin

    Even 230+ years ago our founders were perceptive enough to realize that democracy was a dangerous form of government. How so? Because the citizens of a country can become just as corrupt as any government. We have seen evidence of this throughout history. Ask Native Americans and African-Americans if this population can become corrupt.

    I think in 2012 we are seeing evidence of what Franklin was trying to tell us. Just because a majority of people may support certain ideas it does not mean that those ideas are just. In simple terms, just because most Americans love our president and voted for him, it does not mean that he has the power to go against our constitutional rights.

    Next I’d like to review the text of the second amendment. It is very clear. This is the law of this land. So when Senator Feinstein or President Obama talk about taking your guns, you need to think about something. Are they honoring their sworn oath to uphold the constitution?

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    This is a pretty clear statement. The fact is that it took 232 years for the Supreme Court to even rule on this amendment because it has never been successfully challenged. In 2008 a case of Columbia v. Heller the Supreme Court ruled that a handgun ban in Washington D.C. was unconstitutional. One also has to take this into consideration. The Supreme Court supports your right to own guns. If you want to research this decision further you can start here.

    For those who try to debate the spirit of the 2nd amendment, they are truly no different from people who will try to take Biblical quotes out of context to try to support their immoral decisions. The founders were very clear on the intent of the 2nd amendment. Let me share a few quick quotes here:

    The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. - Thomas Jefferson

    Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that is good. - George Washington

    The Constitution shall never be construed….to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. -Samuel Adams

    Revenge is an act of passion; vengeance of justice. - Samuel Johnson

    The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights Reserved.

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    Re: If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?

    I could find hundreds of quotes like these. This country was built on the right to bear arms. It was built on the rights of an individual to bear arms, regardless of what his government or neighbor happened to think. This is crystal clear. Ironically the people who voice their opinions against this right have their free speech protected by your guns. Without guns in this country, all other amendments become null and void, simply because “We the People” will lose our power of enforcement.

    We need to keep this in mind as our “representatives” try to push gun bans. I don’t care if 99% of people are in support of gun bans (which is far from the case), it is a violation of our constitutional rights, plain and simple.

    A constitutional republic protects the rights of the individual even when their ideas are very much in the minority. If I were the only person in America who believed in the 2nd amendment, I would still be within my rights to call upon it. You would all think I was insane and possibly celebrate if I was gunned down, but in the end I would be the only true American among us.

    Our framers were very clear on this. If my government comes to take my guns, they are violating one of my constitutional rights that is covered by the 2nd amendment.

    It is not my right, at that point, but my responsibility to respond in the name of liberty. What I am telling you is something that many are trying to soft sell, and many others have tried to avoid putting into print, but I am going to say it. The time for speaking in code is over.

    If they come for our guns then it is our constitutional right to put them six feet under. You have the right to kill any representative of this government who tries to tread on your liberty. I am thinking about self-defense and not talking about inciting a revolution. Re-read Jefferson ’s quote. He talks about a “last resort.” I am not trying to start a Revolt, I am talking about self-defense. If the day for Revolution comes, when no peaceful options exist, we may have to talk about that as well. None of us wants to think about that, but please understand that a majority can not take away your rights as an American citizen. Only you can choose to give up your rights.

    Congress could pass gun ban legislation by a 90%+ margin and it just would not matter. I think some people are very unclear on this. This is the reason we have a Supreme Court, and though I do not doubt that the Supreme Court can also become corrupt, in 2008 they got it right. They supported the constitution. It does not matter what the majority supports because America is not a democracy. A constitutional republic protects the rights of every single citizen, no matter what their “elected servants” say. A majority in America only matters when the constitution is not in play.

    I just wrote what every believer in the constitution wants to say, and what every constitutional blogger needs to write. The truth of the matter is that this type of speech is viewed as dangerous and radical or subversive, and it could gain me a world of trouble that I do not want. It is also the truth. To make myself clear I will tell you again. If they come for your guns it is your right to use those guns against them and to kill them. You are protected by our constitution.

    Most of the articles I am reading on the subject are trying to give you clues without just coming out and saying it. I understand that because certain things in this country will get you on a list that you don’t want to be on. I may well be on that list. This blog is small and growing so I may not be there yet, but I have dreams. I also have my own list of subversives and anyone who attempts to deny my constitutional rights is on that list.

    I am not the “subversive” here, it is the political representatives who are threatening to take away my inalienable rights. If they come to take my guns and I leave a few of them wounded or dead, and I somehow survive, I have zero doubt that I will spend a long time in prison and may face an execution. But I would much rather be a political prisoner than a slave.

    If I go down fighting then I was not fighting to harm these human beings. I was simply defending my liberty and yours. It is self-defense and it is what our country was built on. We won our freedom in self-defense. We would not be ruled by a tyrannical government in the 1770′s and we will not be ruled in 2012 by a tyrannical government. There is no difference.

    This is a case of right and wrong. As of now the 2nd amendment stands. It has never been repealed. If Feinstein or Barack have a problem with the constitution then they should be removed from office. They are not defending the constitution which they have sworn an oath to protect. It is treasonous to say the least. They would likely say the same about me, but I have the constitution, the founders, and the supreme court on my side. They only have their inflated egos.

    I am not writing this to incite people. I am writing this in hopes that somehow I can make a tiny difference. I have no idea how many of my neighbors have the will to defend their constitutional rights. 2%? 20%? I am afraid that 20% is a high number, unfortunately. When push comes to shove many people may give up and submit to being ruled. I believe that our government is banking on this.

    I would hope that our officials come to realize that, regardless of our numbers, we still exist because they are calling Patriotic Americans to action. They are making us decide if we want to die free or submit to their rule. I can not tell you where you should stand on that. I do know that it may make the difference between living a life of freedom or slavery.

    You must start thinking about this because I believe that the day is coming soon and I personally believe it has already been planned. Not all conspiracy theories are hogwash. They may throw down the gauntlet soon and my suggestion is that you prepare yourself to react.

    I mean no disrespect to our elected officials but they need to understand that “We the People” will not be disarmed. If they proceed then it is they that are provoking us and we will act accordingly. We are within our rights to do so.

    For those who are in support of taking the guns, you need to ask yourself a very important question, and I am not just talking about the politicians, because if you support them, you have chosen your side.

    Are you willing to die to take my guns?
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    Through regulations, taxation, inflation of the money supply, trade restrictions, and tethers on private associations, government itself is nothing but a massive drain on prosperity. The situation has become deeply dangerous for the future of freedom in America, with young people unable to find jobs, opportunities being destroyed in sector after sector, banks and corporations living on the dole, and so many regulations that we are living under something nearly as egregious as Soviet-style central planning.
    Revenge is an act of passion; vengeance of justice. - Samuel Johnson

    The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights Reserved.


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      Re: If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?

      To Add:

      This guy has a pretty good blog if anyone is interested. He takes goes after all the issues head on:
      Revenge is an act of passion; vengeance of justice. - Samuel Johnson

      The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights Reserved.


      • #4
        Re: If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?

        Been there done that. I made a tactical decision to not fight, gather information about who betrayed me and how, and then get that information out to you people as best I could. I also felt the need to relay tactical information about the BATFag methodologies.

        I figured I was being singled out early, and the big fight was just not yet, and that nobody was going to back me up hardcore. Drawing down with snipers already in place would have just been an act of futility, except that maybe I could have nailed the main undercover guy (actually, yeah, I could have plugged him before the others reacted), but he was just another asshole doing a job and I mistakenly believed was under duress. I could have maybe hosed down the truck the arrest team was hiding in but then if I were wrong about it, that could have been problematic explaining how I just had a paranoia attack and fired up a plain white moving van at a rest stop.

        I also figured (wrongfully) that there might be some room to negotiate something (there wasn't).

        I just keep thinking, nobody would back me up or even avenge me. Then while in the federal detention center, I was given no choice. Backed to the wall by some prick assistant warden who wanted to entertain his buddies by throwing me around, I had enough of that crap off every jerk with a .gov title so I threw down. And of course, nobody backed me up so I got stomped by the riot squad, repeatedly.

        I am holding off on this stuff until a bunch of people have their real "Come to Jesus" moments and figure out what side they are really going to be on. Sitting in an isolation cell reading federal investigative reports written on the basis of things your "friends" said, that's eye opening.

        It's not my life that I cared that much about on this, it's my honor, and the reason I really thank GOD at this point is that the public is getting a clear demonstration of the level of personal honor I strive to maintain vs how the people who sought to ruin and kill me and by extension, my family and name have demonstrated themselves as having no regard for real honor.
        Last edited by RT; February 10th, 2013, 02:36.
        Life, Liberty and the pursuit of those who threaten them.


        • #5
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          10 years ago, in March; I got my not guilties after being in lock up since Columbus Day 2002 I was real close then.I thought that " not guilty" meant a reboot, maybe some comp.Nope.
          November 2005, I get dragged BACK into court on false charges by the( since retired Peppeerell Ma PD) CLEO who disliked my being reinstated that prior summer by the FLRB.Case dragged on until July 2006.Again, not guilty ; but the ( visiting) judge declined to grant judicial review and reinstate my Ma LTC based on the " serious charges"- the ones I was Not Guilty of.
          Move to NH 2007. Got NH LTC, no problem. 2009 got hired as an armed guard on federal sites.Got NH Armed Guard Card, FAA, FPS, DHS clearances.5 year favorable adjudication.
          2010, denied on transfer by nH dept of safety( who issued my armed guard card) based on 1998 misdemeanor OuI( reinstated 2005 as I said). They decided to " unapprove me" because NH has no " reinstatement " process". I was unemployed until I fought them to a draw in court, license reissued in March 2011.( they never took my LTC).Back at work.But I STILL get denied on transfers.I have an attorney trying to get BATF/ NICS to 1) issue my C& R and2) CC a statement to Dept of Safety, myself and my attorney recognizing my 2005 reinstatement as valid( title 18 USC Section 921 relief f4om Section 922 disqualifiers( punishable by possible sentence of more than 1 year).
          I carry& own legally but cannot buy through an ffl...ride the bus as long as i sit in the back.
          FWIW, no I will not comply, cooperate or allow an attack on my person or property.
          Gregory Peter DuPont


          • #6
            Re: If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?

            ...If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?...
            Yes, I do...Absolutely.
            And I will...Most certainly.
            "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" ("When all else fails, play dead.") -Red Green-


            • #7
              Re: If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?

              good read thanks.

              Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

              Some Of My Simple Thoughts


              • #8
                Re: If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?

                I believe Mrs Hubbard Davis put it best in "Death and Dying"

                "To be born free is an accident; To live free a responsibility; To die free is an obligation."
                To be born free is a privilage, to die free is a responsibility!!